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		<title>By: bigD</title>
		<link>http://www.tarkblog.org/general/337#comment-930</link>
		<dc:creator>bigD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 18:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Pork Packing plant"

in other words, a MEAT PACKing plant!

bigtim

in related news, 'pork cutlets' tend to dry out when grilled, but still make for a BANG! samich</description>
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<p>in other words, a MEAT PACKing plant!</p>
<p>bigtim</p>
<p>in related news, &#8216;pork cutlets&#8217; tend to dry out when grilled, but still make for a BANG! samich</p>
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		<title>By: MarkJ</title>
		<link>http://www.tarkblog.org/general/337#comment-929</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 16:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grenert, you raise some great points!

One of your final points coincides with a defense I feel I should offer to the assertion that my comments above fail to appreciate human rights. I must point out that the human rights issue does not lie in the US - it lies in Mexico! If the Mexican government had their act together and bothered to support their citizens with the vast wealth they have in natural resources (*cough*oil*cough*), there wouldn't be a massive vacuum to the North.

Also, to follow-up on the issue about produce costing substantially more without the cheap labor. I heard a statistic that the labor cost of picking/harvesting produce adds up to only 4% of the price. Granted, I can't corrobrate that with anything written. But if that percentage is even close to true, that percentage could triple or quadruple without substantially raising the cost to the consumer. That means that producers *could* pay 3 to 4 times what they are paying illegals and we still wouldn't have "$10 avacados or $20 heads of bananas" (to quote Geraldo Rivera).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grenert, you raise some great points!</p>
<p>One of your final points coincides with a defense I feel I should offer to the assertion that my comments above fail to appreciate human rights. I must point out that the human rights issue does not lie in the US - it lies in Mexico! If the Mexican government had their act together and bothered to support their citizens with the vast wealth they have in natural resources (*cough*oil*cough*), there wouldn&#8217;t be a massive vacuum to the North.</p>
<p>Also, to follow-up on the issue about produce costing substantially more without the cheap labor. I heard a statistic that the labor cost of picking/harvesting produce adds up to only 4% of the price. Granted, I can&#8217;t corrobrate that with anything written. But if that percentage is even close to true, that percentage could triple or quadruple without substantially raising the cost to the consumer. That means that producers *could* pay 3 to 4 times what they are paying illegals and we still wouldn&#8217;t have &#8220;$10 avacados or $20 heads of bananas&#8221; (to quote Geraldo Rivera).</p>
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		<title>By: Grenert</title>
		<link>http://www.tarkblog.org/general/337#comment-928</link>
		<dc:creator>Grenert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 12:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still say assimilation is the key.  Living in Logansport, I'm surrounded by Latinos, many of which I am certain are not legal.  You cannot go into a restraunt, store, bank, park, etc without hearing jibberish (probably Spanish, but I just like to consider it "Not-English")  They're all here because of the Pork Packing plant (Tyson's IBP) that we have here.  Now, for all of you who say that the Mexicans are here because they're doing jobs that nobody else would, guess what? . . . The slaughter house was here long before the Mexicans.  It was a locally-owned business that got bought out by Tysons.  Once Tysons took over, gone were the whites and in came the browns.  

Thanks Tysons for the influx of Mexicans.  I personally enjoy having to shred every single document that I throw away for fear of having my identity stolen.  It's great reading the newspaper and seeing all of the accident reports involving people without licenses and insurance.  It's great to have spanish plastered all over town.  I love the little low-rider vehicles with all the gothic lettering, chrome, Nike stickers, and mexican flags all over them.  It's an absolute joy to hear the circus going through town every day . . . oh wait . . . that's just mexican music.

I am not saying that we should not allow immigration.  I'm all for immigration.  Yes, the country was built by immigrants, but they were legal immigrants.  You just can't open the flood gates and let anyone and everyone that wants to come to America walk right in (or swim or wade, for that matter).  It's not socially or economically responsible.  

As for the language issue, many states have legislature in place that recognizes English the official language, Indiana included.  I wish that the Federal Government would do the same thing.  There was also a comment in one of the posts about second-generation latinos in the US speaking English . . . that's fine and dandy, but with more and more illegals coming in each day, how is that even relevant.  We're still being bombarded with non-english speaking people and that trend doesn't seem to be slowing down.  Those second-generation immigrants may be able to speak english, but many still speak spanish at home.  I know this because my neighbor fits that description.  He's a great guy.  He has assimilated into our culture and has a job selling insurance.  He is bi-lingual, but much of his family speaks spanish.  Therefore, the majority of the conversations with his family are in spanish.  The language barrier may never be broken until the Federal Government steps up and mandates that English is the official language and quits printing things  in Spanish.  

Mexicans are very proud of their culture (?).  Many have no desire to change or to adopt the American culture.  I say, if they're so proud to be Mexican, then go back.  Take what you've learned in America and go apply it in Mexico.  Go make a difference in your homeland.  Have a social and economic impact and improve the world.  If Mexico wasn't such a bad place to live, then people wouldn't be sneaking in here every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still say assimilation is the key.  Living in Logansport, I&#8217;m surrounded by Latinos, many of which I am certain are not legal.  You cannot go into a restraunt, store, bank, park, etc without hearing jibberish (probably Spanish, but I just like to consider it &#8220;Not-English&#8221;)  They&#8217;re all here because of the Pork Packing plant (Tyson&#8217;s IBP) that we have here.  Now, for all of you who say that the Mexicans are here because they&#8217;re doing jobs that nobody else would, guess what? . . . The slaughter house was here long before the Mexicans.  It was a locally-owned business that got bought out by Tysons.  Once Tysons took over, gone were the whites and in came the browns.  </p>
<p>Thanks Tysons for the influx of Mexicans.  I personally enjoy having to shred every single document that I throw away for fear of having my identity stolen.  It&#8217;s great reading the newspaper and seeing all of the accident reports involving people without licenses and insurance.  It&#8217;s great to have spanish plastered all over town.  I love the little low-rider vehicles with all the gothic lettering, chrome, Nike stickers, and mexican flags all over them.  It&#8217;s an absolute joy to hear the circus going through town every day . . . oh wait . . . that&#8217;s just mexican music.</p>
<p>I am not saying that we should not allow immigration.  I&#8217;m all for immigration.  Yes, the country was built by immigrants, but they were legal immigrants.  You just can&#8217;t open the flood gates and let anyone and everyone that wants to come to America walk right in (or swim or wade, for that matter).  It&#8217;s not socially or economically responsible.  </p>
<p>As for the language issue, many states have legislature in place that recognizes English the official language, Indiana included.  I wish that the Federal Government would do the same thing.  There was also a comment in one of the posts about second-generation latinos in the US speaking English . . . that&#8217;s fine and dandy, but with more and more illegals coming in each day, how is that even relevant.  We&#8217;re still being bombarded with non-english speaking people and that trend doesn&#8217;t seem to be slowing down.  Those second-generation immigrants may be able to speak english, but many still speak spanish at home.  I know this because my neighbor fits that description.  He&#8217;s a great guy.  He has assimilated into our culture and has a job selling insurance.  He is bi-lingual, but much of his family speaks spanish.  Therefore, the majority of the conversations with his family are in spanish.  The language barrier may never be broken until the Federal Government steps up and mandates that English is the official language and quits printing things  in Spanish.  </p>
<p>Mexicans are very proud of their culture (?).  Many have no desire to change or to adopt the American culture.  I say, if they&#8217;re so proud to be Mexican, then go back.  Take what you&#8217;ve learned in America and go apply it in Mexico.  Go make a difference in your homeland.  Have a social and economic impact and improve the world.  If Mexico wasn&#8217;t such a bad place to live, then people wouldn&#8217;t be sneaking in here every day.</p>
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		<title>By: bigD</title>
		<link>http://www.tarkblog.org/general/337#comment-923</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2006 19:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being a sociology major prepares you nicely for working alongside sanchez in the tomato field.</description>
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